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BMW boot solenoid problem

"Grumps"
23.11.2011 - 19:17
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the boot.
There is no master key.
When the boot release button is pressed (or the button under the dash, or
the remote fob button) the release solenoid makes a quite squeal only.
Anyone got any ideas what could be the cause or cure.
I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.


The Natural Philosopher
23.11.2011 - 19:53
Grumps wrote:
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key.
When the boot release button is pressed (or the button under the dash,
or the remote fob button) the release solenoid makes a quite squeal only.

Sounds like a flat battery or corroded connection or dodgy relay somewhere.

Try it with the engine running and revved up a bit.


Anyone got any ideas what could be the cause or cure.
I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.

Bad connections wont fix that way..nor will dirty contacts.


If there is a relay you can swap out that might work.


My jag used to also have a place for a key hidden in it somewhere..check
handbook.


"Nick"
23.11.2011 - 20:19

"Grumps" <email@anonym; wrote in message
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Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key.
When the boot release button is pressed (or the button under the dash, or
the remote fob button) the release solenoid makes a quite squeal only.
Anyone got any ideas what could be the cause or cure.
I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.


You might try uk.rec.cars.maintenance. There are good knowledgeable folk
there.
Failing that, and I hesitate to write this, ............... angle grinder.



"Richard"
23.11.2011 - 20:41
Grumps wrote:
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key.
When the boot release button is pressed (or the button under the
dash, or the remote fob button) the release solenoid makes a quite
squeal only. Anyone got any ideas what could be the cause or cure.
I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t60301
Maybe.



"Grumps"
23.11.2011 - 20:54
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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Grumps wrote:
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key.
When the boot release button is pressed (or the button under the dash, or
the remote fob button) the release solenoid makes a quite squeal only.

Sounds like a flat battery or corroded connection or dodgy relay somewhere.

Try it with the engine running and revved up a bit.

Thanks. I tried that. No luck.

Anyone got any ideas what could be the cause or cure.
I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.

Bad connections wont fix that way..nor will dirty contacts.


If there is a relay you can swap out that might work.

I suspect the relay is in the boot, along with some of the fuses.

However... I suspected the key I have IS the master key and the lock is
corroded. I took a trip to get some WD40 and pressed the internal boot
release - it opened :)
I've now been told that the rear central locking did not work - it does now.
Dodgy wire/relay somewhere.

My jag used to also have a place for a key hidden in it somewhere..check
handbook.


"Grumps"
23.11.2011 - 20:55
"Nick" wrote in message news:9j4vb7Fc9Uemail@anonym...


"Grumps" <email@anonym; wrote in message
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Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key.
When the boot release button is pressed (or the button under the dash, or
the remote fob button) the release solenoid makes a quite squeal only.
Anyone got any ideas what could be the cause or cure.
I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.


You might try uk.rec.cars.maintenance. There are good knowledgeable folk
there.
Failing that, and I hesitate to write this, ............... angle grinder.

God I hate Windows Live Mail. How do you get it to put ">" on replies.
Anyway, angle grinder is not needed as boot lock sprang into life. Just need
to find the reason for its stubbornness.


"Grumps"
23.11.2011 - 20:56



"Richard" wrote in message news:4ecd4c65$0$2548$email@anonym...

Grumps wrote:
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key.
When the boot release button is pressed (or the button under the
dash, or the remote fob button) the release solenoid makes a quite
squeal only. Anyone got any ideas what could be the cause or cure.
I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t60301
Maybe.

Valet lock switch in the glove box?! WTF. I never knew there was one.
Thanks, I'll have a look.


"Grumps"
23.11.2011 - 21:14
"Grumps" wrote in message news:jajj62$34q$email@anonym...



"Richard" wrote in message news:4ecd4c65$0$2548$email@anonym...

Grumps wrote:
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key.
When the boot release button is pressed (or the button under the
dash, or the remote fob button) the release solenoid makes a quite
squeal only. Anyone got any ideas what could be the cause or cure.
I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t60301
Maybe.

Valet lock switch in the glove box?! WTF. I never knew there was one.
Thanks, I'll have a look.

Well, there does not appear to be any switch in the glove box, and the glove
box lock does not affect the operation of the boot release. But thanks for
the clue anyway.


Newshound
23.11.2011 - 23:26
On 23/11/2011 18:17, Grumps wrote:
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key.
When the boot release button is pressed (or the button under the dash,
or the remote fob button) the release solenoid makes a quite squeal only.
Anyone got any ideas what could be the cause or cure.
I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.

Try uk.rec.cars.maintenance.

or MrCheerful may be along in a minute

"Dave Plowman (News)"
24.11.2011 - 00:25
In article <jajdb6$p7q$email@anonym;,
Grumps <email@anonym; wrote:
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key. When the boot release button is pressed
(or the button under the dash, or the remote fob button) the release
solenoid makes a quite squeal only. Anyone got any ideas what could be
the cause or cure. I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it. Ta.

The motor on my E39 failed too - not surprising when I took the broken one
apart to see why. Cheap plastic worm drive and gears. The worm shaft had
snapped. Looked like it cost all of a couple of quid to make. But of
course cost rather more as a spare...

Have you checked the handbook for a manual release?

Or do a Google for that fault on your particular model?

--
*Confession is good for the soul, but bad for your career.

Dave Plowman email@anonym London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Baz"
24.11.2011 - 15:13

"Dave Plowman (News)" <email@anonym; wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
In article <jajdb6$p7q$email@anonym;,
Grumps <email@anonym; wrote:
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key. When the boot release button is pressed
(or the button under the dash, or the remote fob button) the release
solenoid makes a quite squeal only. Anyone got any ideas what could be
the cause or cure. I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it. Ta.

The motor on my E39 failed too - not surprising when I took the broken one
apart to see why. Cheap plastic worm drive and gears. The worm shaft had
snapped. Looked like it cost all of a couple of quid to make. But of
course cost rather more as a spare...

Have you checked the handbook for a manual release?

Or do a Google for that fault on your particular model?

--
*Confession is good for the soul, but bad for your career.

Dave Plowman email@anonym London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.



So what does a "Valet lock switch" do if you have one?

Baz



The Natural Philosopher
24.11.2011 - 15:26
Baz wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" <email@anonym; wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
In article <jajdb6$p7q$email@anonym;,
Grumps <email@anonym; wrote:
Hi All
Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key. When the boot release button is pressed
(or the button under the dash, or the remote fob button) the release
solenoid makes a quite squeal only. Anyone got any ideas what could be
the cause or cure. I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it. Ta.
The motor on my E39 failed too - not surprising when I took the broken one
apart to see why. Cheap plastic worm drive and gears. The worm shaft had
snapped. Looked like it cost all of a couple of quid to make. But of
course cost rather more as a spare...

Have you checked the handbook for a manual release?

Or do a Google for that fault on your particular model?

--
*Confession is good for the soul, but bad for your career.

Dave Plowman email@anonym London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.



So what does a "Valet lock switch" do if you have one?


On modern Jags

"Valet Mode allows the vehicle to be locked by a parking attendant,
without giving access to the luggage compartment and glove compartment.

The setting is accessed via the Vehicle menu on the Touch-screen."

I cant remember how it worked on my older version.




Baz



The Natural Philosopher
24.11.2011 - 15:30
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Baz wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" <email@anonym; wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
In article <jajdb6$p7q$email@anonym;,
Grumps <email@anonym; wrote:
Hi All
Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key. When the boot release button is pressed
(or the button under the dash, or the remote fob button) the release
solenoid makes a quite squeal only. Anyone got any ideas what could be
the cause or cure. I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it.
Ta.
The motor on my E39 failed too - not surprising when I took the
broken one
apart to see why. Cheap plastic worm drive and gears. The worm shaft had
snapped. Looked like it cost all of a couple of quid to make. But of
course cost rather more as a spare...

Have you checked the handbook for a manual release?

Or do a Google for that fault on your particular model?

--
*Confession is good for the soul, but bad for your career.

Dave Plowman email@anonym London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.



So what does a "Valet lock switch" do if you have one?


On modern Jags

"Valet Mode allows the vehicle to be locked by a parking attendant,
without giving access to the luggage compartment and glove compartment.

The setting is accessed via the Vehicle menu on the Touch-screen."

I cant remember how it worked on my older version.


I looked it up and remembered. secret switch and you gave the valet a
different key without radio control or something.

I only ever valet parked it once - at Heathrow. Gave em the total keys
and emptied the boot!

One of the more useless features of that car.



Baz


"Dave Plowman (News)"
24.11.2011 - 15:38
In article <8eadnfGCjZVLzVPTnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZemail@anonym;,
Baz <brashbaz@REMOVEmsn.com> wrote:
So what does a "Valet lock switch" do if you have one?

My older BMW has a valet key which only opens the doors and ignition. So
I'd expect a valet lock to inhibit the boot opening in some way?

I do have a further boot open button on the driver's side footwell - I
dunno if that still works if you only have the valet key? Whatever, I'd
expect there to be some way to secure the boot from a valet parking
service - who will likely know all the ways to get into things.

--
*Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.*

Dave Plowman email@anonym London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Grumps"
25.11.2011 - 00:20
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
news:email@anonym...

In article <jajdb6$p7q$email@anonym;,
Grumps <email@anonym; wrote:
Hi All

Wife's car boot will not open using the remote or push buttons on the
boot. There is no master key. When the boot release button is pressed
(or the button under the dash, or the remote fob button) the release
solenoid makes a quite squeal only. Anyone got any ideas what could be
the cause or cure. I've tried lifting it, sitting on it, bashing it. Ta.

The motor on my E39 failed too - not surprising when I took the broken one
apart to see why. Cheap plastic worm drive and gears. The worm shaft had
snapped. Looked like it cost all of a couple of quid to make. But of
course cost rather more as a spare...

Have you checked the handbook for a manual release?

Or do a Google for that fault on your particular model?

Seems quite a few reasons, one of them being the wiring loom that goes to
the boot lid. It's working ok at the moment, but I'll have a look at the
wires this weekend. I recall having to mend one a while back as one number
plate light was out. Pictures on the web show that many wires can break or
short causing various problems.
Or it could be something else, maybe the general module.
If the key worked in the boot lock, that'd be nice.
Cheers all.





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