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"Mark A"
30.04.2012 - 11:30
Well, that's fairly typical. The F.A. goes for Mr Middle Table.
Then again, I guess England's football team is pretty average
anyway, so why aspire to anything greater?

F.A. - cowards.

Regards

Mark


"tim...."
30.04.2012 - 12:47

"Mark A" <m.email@anonym; wrote in message
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Well, that's fairly typical. The F.A. goes for Mr Middle Table. Then
again, I guess England's football team is pretty average anyway, so why
aspire to anything greater?

F.A. - cowards.

They've taken risks in the past - and they failed to deliver at considerable
expense.

So what's wrong with taking a risk on the guy who isn't (I hope) motivated
by money

tim





Martin
30.04.2012 - 13:05
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:47:06 +0100, "tim...."
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"Mark A" <m.email@anonym; wrote in message
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Well, that's fairly typical. The F.A. goes for Mr Middle Table. Then
again, I guess England's football team is pretty average anyway, so why
aspire to anything greater?

F.A. - cowards.

They've taken risks in the past - and they failed to deliver at considerable
expense.

So what's wrong with taking a risk on the guy who isn't (I hope) motivated
by money

At least he speaks English.
--

Martin


The Other Mike
30.04.2012 - 13:48
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:05:34 +0200, Martin <email@anonym; wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:47:06 +0100, "tim...."
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"Mark A" <m.email@anonym; wrote in message
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Well, that's fairly typical. The F.A. goes for Mr Middle Table. Then
again, I guess England's football team is pretty average anyway, so why
aspire to anything greater?

F.A. - cowards.

They've taken risks in the past - and they failed to deliver at considerable
expense.

So what's wrong with taking a risk on the guy who isn't (I hope) motivated
by money

At least he speaks English.

Well a highly modified form of it given that he subsitutes w's for
r's.

Given his speech impediment its a surprise he's not a reporter or
newsreader on the beeb as the place seems to be overrun with them (at
least in some regions)


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Martin
30.04.2012 - 13:52
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:48:51 +0100, The Other Mike
<email@anonym; wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:05:34 +0200, Martin <email@anonym; wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:47:06 +0100, "tim...."
<email@anonym; wrote:


"Mark A" <m.email@anonym; wrote in message
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Well, that's fairly typical. The F.A. goes for Mr Middle Table. Then
again, I guess England's football team is pretty average anyway, so why
aspire to anything greater?

F.A. - cowards.

They've taken risks in the past - and they failed to deliver at considerable
expense.

So what's wrong with taking a risk on the guy who isn't (I hope) motivated
by money

At least he speaks English.

Well a highly modified form of it given that he subsitutes w's for
r's.

and can tell his elbow from his r's.
--

Martin


allantracy
30.04.2012 - 13:58

>So what's wrong with taking a risk on the guy who isn't (I hope) motivated
>by money

At least he speaks English.


Speaks five languages.

allantracy
30.04.2012 - 14:12

On Apr 30, 10:300am, "Mark A" <m.annetts-nos...@notthereanymore.com>
wrote:
Well, that's fairly typical. The F.A. goes for Mr Middle Table.
Then again, I guess England's football team is pretty average
anyway, so why aspire to anything greater?

F.A. - cowards.


Hodgson always was the informed choice.

Like Harry he2s managed successfully at all levels but, unlike Harry,
he2s also proven at international level.

In his time as manager at Switzerland, he qualified for a World Cup,
losing only one game, and from a group that contained Italy and
Portugal.

The Swiss took four points off Italy (who went on to make the 1994
World Cup Final, losing only on penalties).

The 1994 tournament was Switzerland2s first World Cup sine 1966 and
they even qualified from the group stages before being knocked out by
Spain.

Switzerland also qualified for the 1996 Euros but Hodgson left before
the tournament, being tempted away by Inter Milan.


"michael adams"
30.04.2012 - 14:31

"Mark A" <m.email@anonym; wrote in message
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Well, that's fairly typical. The F.A. goes for Mr Middle Table. Then again, I guess
England's football team is pretty average anyway, so why aspire to anything greater?

F.A. - cowards.

Regards

Mark


They shot themselves in the foot in bowing to public pressure
to appoint an "English" manager at a time when there are no
young English born managers, who are eminently suitable for
the job - AFAIAA.

There's no point in appointing relatively old managers such
as Hodgson or Rednapp when they need someone dynamic who can
hold the job down for at least the next ten years.

In any case nobody with any sense would want the job to
start with.

Club managers are only accountable to their local press and
home supporters when things are going wrong. The England manager
is held to account by the whole of the national press after every
single game.

Again Premier league managers with available funds have the
pick of players from around the world. The England manager
has a much more limited choice at the best of times.

Rednapps no mug. The "throwaway comment" about his missus not
fancying him doing the high mileage back and forth from Bournemouth
wasn't intended to fall on deaf ears

michael adams

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"Mark A"
30.04.2012 - 15:10
"michael adams" wrote:

They shot themselves in the foot in bowing to public
pressure to appoint an "English" manager

That Barcelona chap might be a good move, assuming
he can be persuaded to lower himself.

Regards

Mark


"Norman Wells"
30.04.2012 - 15:42
michael adams wrote:

There's no point in appointing relatively old managers such
as Hodgson or Rednapp when they need someone dynamic who can
hold the job down for at least the next ten years.

In any case nobody with any sense would want the job to
start with.

Oh, I don't know. £6 million a year, plus breach of contract payments
if dismissed early, doesn't sound entirely unattractive.


xd18911
30.04.2012 - 18:40
"Mark A" <m.email@anonym; wrote in news:jnm2vo01i52
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"michael adams" wrote:

They shot themselves in the foot in bowing to public
pressure to appoint an "English" manager

That Barcelona chap might be a good move, assuming
he can be persuaded to lower himself.

Regards

Mark


He's done with football for a while, the Barcelona job has ruined the poor
chap for a while. My only concern with Hodgson is he wears his heart on
his sleeve and you can see when it's getting to him. During one post match
interview when he was at Fulham he was genuinely depressed at the result,
so much so that he couldn't offer much comment on the match. Other than
that he is probably the most experienced international manager there is at
the moment. Eventually Pearce will get the job, in recent years the FA
have made sure he's always the right-hand-man so I reckon they're grooming
him for it.

"michael adams"
30.04.2012 - 18:49

"Norman Wells" <email@anonym; wrote in message news:3Gwnr.73881$Yw1.email@anonym4...
michael adams wrote:

There's no point in appointing relatively old managers such
as Hodgson or Rednapp when they need someone dynamic who can
hold the job down for at least the next ten years.

In any case nobody with any sense would want the job to
start with.

Oh, I don't know. £6 million a year, plus breach of contract payments if dismissed
early, doesn't sound entirely unattractive.

That's only another millstone around any prospective manager's
neck.

If he doesn't get the results then that's the first thing that
will be used against him.

It doesn't matter how long the contract is, getting slagged off
week in and week out in the tabloids, with your private life being put
under the microscope or your kids being pointed out and laughed at,
and your family life being ruined in the process, is worth no
amount of money.

Managing a Premiership side is a holiday camp by comparison.

Steve Kean may be getting slagged off by the Blackburn fans
again, but most other supporters of other clubs probably feel
sorry for him.

A losing England manager has got no friends. Anywhere.

Hodgson has only taken it because, as with Liverpool he's
in it for the compo. He'll fuck up within a year - he knows it
and everyone else knows it - get another golden goodbye -
and finally retire.




michael adams

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"Norman Wells"
30.04.2012 - 20:12
michael adams wrote:
"Norman Wells" <email@anonym; wrote in message
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michael adams wrote:

There's no point in appointing relatively old managers such
as Hodgson or Rednapp when they need someone dynamic who can
hold the job down for at least the next ten years.

In any case nobody with any sense would want the job to
start with.

Oh, I don't know. £6 million a year, plus breach of contract
payments if dismissed early, doesn't sound entirely unattractive.

That's only another millstone around any prospective manager's
neck.

If he doesn't get the results then that's the first thing that
will be used against him.

It doesn't matter how long the contract is, getting slagged off
week in and week out in the tabloids, with your private life being put
under the microscope or your kids being pointed out and laughed at,
and your family life being ruined in the process, is worth no
amount of money.

Managing a Premiership side is a holiday camp by comparison.

Steve Kean may be getting slagged off by the Blackburn fans
again, but most other supporters of other clubs probably feel
sorry for him.

A losing England manager has got no friends. Anywhere.

Hodgson has only taken it because, as with Liverpool he's
in it for the compo. He'll fuck up within a year - he knows it
and everyone else knows it - get another golden goodbye -
and finally retire.

How very rational. At least one with the sense to want the job then.


"GordonD"
30.04.2012 - 20:23
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michael adams wrote:

There's no point in appointing relatively old managers such
as Hodgson or Rednapp when they need someone dynamic who can
hold the job down for at least the next ten years.

In any case nobody with any sense would want the job to
start with.

Oh, I don't know. £6 million a year, plus breach of contract payments if
dismissed early, doesn't sound entirely unattractive.

That's only another millstone around any prospective manager's
neck.

If he doesn't get the results then that's the first thing that
will be used against him.

It doesn't matter how long the contract is, getting slagged off
week in and week out in the tabloids, with your private life being put
under the microscope or your kids being pointed out and laughed at,
and your family life being ruined in the process, is worth no
amount of money.

Managing a Premiership side is a holiday camp by comparison.

Steve Kean may be getting slagged off by the Blackburn fans
again, but most other supporters of other clubs probably feel
sorry for him.

A losing England manager has got no friends. Anywhere.


He'd find plenty up here. Because our own football team is so crap, the only
entertainment we get these days is watching England fail.
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."


"michael adams"
30.04.2012 - 20:53

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michael adams wrote:

There's no point in appointing relatively old managers such
as Hodgson or Rednapp when they need someone dynamic who can
hold the job down for at least the next ten years.

In any case nobody with any sense would want the job to
start with.

Oh, I don't know. £6 million a year, plus breach of contract payments if dismissed
early, doesn't sound entirely unattractive.

That's only another millstone around any prospective manager's
neck.

If he doesn't get the results then that's the first thing that
will be used against him.

It doesn't matter how long the contract is, getting slagged off
week in and week out in the tabloids, with your private life being put
under the microscope or your kids being pointed out and laughed at,
and your family life being ruined in the process, is worth no
amount of money.

Managing a Premiership side is a holiday camp by comparison.

Steve Kean may be getting slagged off by the Blackburn fans
again, but most other supporters of other clubs probably feel
sorry for him.

A losing England manager has got no friends. Anywhere.


He'd find plenty up here. Because our own football team is so crap, the only
entertainment we get these days is watching England fail.

<boring football stuff>

In the days before the Premier League and exotic foreign imports
almost every club in the Football League from the 1st to the 4th
division had at least one or two Scottish Players. They were a
backbone of English football for almost 100 years. Nowadays OTTOMH
its difficult to think of a single Scottish player who regularly
makes a mark of any kind in the Premiership. Whereas at a guess
almost half of the managers in the Premership - from Rednose
all the way down to McLeish Coyle and Kean are Scots. Strange.
The Premier League, the Champions League and all the foreign
imports have changed football out of all recognition. So that
apart from showpieces like the World Cup, and the Euros at a pinch
Internationals are seen as almost an irrelevance or a distraction
from the serious business in hand. Although still a good excuse
to slag off the manager whoever he happens to be when the inevitable
happens.

</boring football stuff>

Sorry, you were saying ?


michael adams

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--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."






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