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The Old Bloke
23.03.2010 - 14:32
I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate

Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
power down.

Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
no files were changed by SR.

However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.

I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
This is again bizarre.

The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
discache
MpFilter
SaibVdAd64
spldr
vpcvmm
Wanarpv6"

However on each failure the errors vary a lot.

After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
occasionally boot.

Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.

I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.

Regards
Doug

"Acacia"
24.03.2010 - 13:16
Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html
You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRABlackscreenfix

"The Old Bloke" <le0pardX@Xgmail.com> wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate

Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
power down.

Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
no files were changed by SR.

However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.

I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
This is again bizarre.

The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
discache
MpFilter
SaibVdAd64
spldr
vpcvmm
Wanarpv6"

However on each failure the errors vary a lot.

After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
occasionally boot.

Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.

I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.

Regards
Doug




"Farticus"
25.03.2010 - 03:47
"Acacia" <email@anonym; wrote in message
news:fonqn.109202$rq1.email@anonym...
Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html
You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRABlackscreenfix

"The Old Bloke" <le0pardX@Xgmail.com> wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate

Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
power down.

Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
no files were changed by SR.

However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.

I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
This is again bizarre.

The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
discache
MpFilter
SaibVdAd64
spldr
vpcvmm
Wanarpv6"

However on each failure the errors vary a lot.

After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
occasionally boot.

Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.

I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.

Regards
Doug

I had similar/same problem a few weeks ago. Got me pulling out whats left of
my hair.
The damn thing would boot up to the "Welcome" screen then go blank, and stop
there.
Worked OK in safe mode. (Window$ XP).

I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on the back
of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially disslodged.
Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!



"SG1"
25.03.2010 - 04:07

"Farticus" <email@anonym; wrote in message
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"Acacia" <email@anonym; wrote in message
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Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html
You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRABlackscreenfix

"The Old Bloke" <le0pardX@Xgmail.com> wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate

Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
power down.

Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
no files were changed by SR.

However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.

I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
This is again bizarre.

The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
discache
MpFilter
SaibVdAd64
spldr
vpcvmm
Wanarpv6"

However on each failure the errors vary a lot.

After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
occasionally boot.

Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.

I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.

Regards
Doug

I had similar/same problem a few weeks ago. Got me pulling out whats left
of my hair.
The damn thing would boot up to the "Welcome" screen then go blank, and
stop there.
Worked OK in safe mode. (Window$ XP).

I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on the
back of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially
disslodged.
Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!

Don't ya luv it, blaming M$ for a fault and it was the operator??????






The Old Bloke
25.03.2010 - 04:28

Hi XR8 and Acacia

I may have fixed it. Fingers crossed.

When the PC didn't finish its boot, it collected a bucket of errors in
the Event Viewer, and these changed considerably with each failure.

After hours of going through the Event logs, one process always came
up each time there was a boot failure. It was Microsoft Security
Essentials.

I uninstalled, cleaned the registry files again. And the PC booted.
Now it has occasionally booted OK before, so I am still not sure I
have a fix. I reinstalled Microsoft Security Essentials. It's been
two days with many reboots (just to test) and the PC has booted
normally every time.

Fingers crossed.

Many thanks for the feedback!
Regards
Doug

Rob
25.03.2010 - 06:36
On 25/03/2010 1:47 PM, Farticus wrote:
"Acacia"<email@anonym; wrote in message
news:fonqn.109202$rq1.email@anonym...
Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html
You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRABlackscreenfix

"The Old Bloke"<le0pardX@Xgmail.com> wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate

Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
power down.

Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
no files were changed by SR.

However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.

I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
This is again bizarre.

The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
discache
MpFilter
SaibVdAd64
spldr
vpcvmm
Wanarpv6"

However on each failure the errors vary a lot.

After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
occasionally boot.

Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.

I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.

Regards
Doug

I had similar/same problem a few weeks ago. Got me pulling out whats left of
my hair.
The damn thing would boot up to the "Welcome" screen then go blank, and stop
there.
Worked OK in safe mode. (Window$ XP).

I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on the back
of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially disslodged.
Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!



What you did was easy with XP as it allows for a repair install. No
such thing with W7 or Vista for that matter. W7 has a complicated work
around for any problem.

Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.


Andy
25.03.2010 - 08:02

Rob wrote:

On 25/03/2010 1:47 PM, Farticus wrote:

I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on the back
of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially disslodged.
Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!

What you did was easy with XP as it allows for a repair install. No
such thing with W7 or Vista for that matter. W7 has a complicated work
around for any problem.

Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.

A 'repair install' of the OS would've plugged in the dislodged monitor
cable?

Now I've heard fucking _everything_

--
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Rob
25.03.2010 - 10:16
On 25/03/2010 6:02 PM, Andy wrote:
Rob wrote:

On 25/03/2010 1:47 PM, Farticus wrote:

I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on the back
of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially disslodged.
Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!

What you did was easy with XP as it allows for a repair install. No
such thing with W7 or Vista for that matter. W7 has a complicated work
around for any problem.

Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.

A 'repair install' of the OS would've plugged in the dislodged monitor
cable?

Now I've heard fucking _everything_


I have not mentioned the monitor in my reply, should I have snipped the
irrelevant parts then.

I was comparing operating systems

Not referring to a hardware problem but the fact in the first line "I
reloaded Window$," the OP did reload the XP OS in a search to eliminate
the problem this is possible with XP. This is not the case with a
repair of W7.

And what's more I still can't understand why the monitor cable being
dislodged would have created a situation for the OS to be reinstalled.

Does that make it any clearer???????????????? or what?????????????

atec 77
25.03.2010 - 10:30
Rob wrote:
On 25/03/2010 1:47 PM, Farticus wrote:
"Acacia"<email@anonym; wrote in message
news:fonqn.109202$rq1.email@anonym...
Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html

You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRABlackscreenfix

"The Old Bloke"<le0pardX@Xgmail.com> wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate

Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
power down.

Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
no files were changed by SR.

However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.

I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
This is again bizarre.

The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
discache
MpFilter
SaibVdAd64
spldr
vpcvmm
Wanarpv6"

However on each failure the errors vary a lot.

After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
occasionally boot.

Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.

I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.

Regards
Doug

I had similar/same problem a few weeks ago. Got me pulling out whats
left of
my hair.
The damn thing would boot up to the "Welcome" screen then go blank,
and stop
there.
Worked OK in safe mode. (Window$ XP).

I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on
the back
of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially
disslodged.
Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!



What you did was easy with XP as it allows for a repair install. No
such thing with W7 or Vista for that matter. W7 has a complicated work
around for any problem.

Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.

Making a small alteration found on google allows upgrades and hence
repairs in win7 making it's maintenance very xp in many respects

Andy
25.03.2010 - 11:23
Rob wrote:

On 25/03/2010 6:02 PM, Andy wrote:

A 'repair install' of the OS would've plugged in the dislodged monitor
cable?

Now I've heard fucking _everything_

I have not mentioned the monitor in my reply, should I have snipped the
irrelevant parts then.

Well, yes - it's common netiquette.

I was comparing operating systems

Not referring to a hardware problem but the fact in the first line "I
reloaded Window$," the OP did reload the XP OS in a search to eliminate
the problem this is possible with XP. This is not the case with a
repair of W7.

And what's more I still can't understand why the monitor cable being
dislodged would have created a situation for the OS to be reinstalled.

Me either. Sounds like a good old case of operator error, followed by
another one.

--
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Rob
25.03.2010 - 23:29
On 25/03/2010 8:30 PM, atec 77 wrote:


Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.

Making a small alteration found on google allows upgrades and hence
repairs in win7 making it's maintenance very xp in many respects



Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
secret Google site?

terryc
26.03.2010 - 02:42
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:29:29 +1100, Rob wrote:

Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
secret Google site?

MB?, motherboard?
Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and thus
require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?


atec7 7
26.03.2010 - 03:19
terryc wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:29:29 +1100, Rob wrote:

Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
secret Google site?

MB?, motherboard?
Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and thus
require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?

There are hacks although a retail w7 wont need more than re rego or a hack

google is a mate

terryc
26.03.2010 - 04:44
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:21:07 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

terryc wrote
Rob wrote

Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
secret Google site?

MB?, motherboard?

Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and thus
require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?

It never did.

Of course ROD you would get it wrong. It says so very clearly on the
Mickeysoft website that if you change the motherboard, you have to buy a
new licence.

Interestingly, their social.mickysoft site says this doesn't affect Full
Retail, but does affect OEM(7 & XP).

While we are on the subject, does anyone know how to work out, from the
product key, what the installation media is?


terryc
26.03.2010 - 04:49
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:19:10 +1000, atec7 7 wrote:

terryc wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:29:29 +1100, Rob wrote:

Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in
the secret Google site?

MB?, motherboard?
Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and thus
require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?

There are hacks although a retail w7 wont need more than re rego or a
hack

google is a mate

lol, that is what I just found out. Full marks on your googling skills.

A very dusty "we are cleaning out junk" gift arrived with a dodgy hard
disk boot. Eventually found out ram was dicky and replaced it as well,
then back to the hard disk. OEM Prod Key on case and eventually found
install media (needed SP1) that would accept the prod key, but MS says
nope, already installed. Bummer. Linux beckons.





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